#672149 - 07/02/06 06:27 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: bender]
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Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
Registered: 21/07/03
Loc: Angel's Landing, USA
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I think someones missing the point of silliness in this thread. 
First ask yourself-
"Is there ONE RIGHT way to DANCE with poi?"
The answer is no.
If you take any dance style, or martial arts, or any type of movement and integrate it with your spinning, I'm sure you'll find the one way to dance with poi that is uniquely your own and makes you 
Look at Nick's exaggerated smooth clowny style born from yoga and moving circles down the spine, watch oli's crazy monkey madness with quick direction changes and longarm with isolations, or yuta's martial artist jumps and kicking, Andy/poibox simple clean moves, or fluffy napalm fairy's hip moving 
There is no one right way to dance with the poi.
Just find what suits your personality and aquire/steal it for your dancing
Ta 
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#672150 - 07/02/06 11:02 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: KaelGotRice]
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Registered: 23/01/06
Loc: colerne nr Bath
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Yeah, i totally agree. Its about finding what's comfortable for you. Although dance classes can really help you to connect to your body. Yesterday i went to a really cool popping, locking and boogaloo workshop! it was amazing!
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#672151 - 07/02/06 11:50 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: KaelGotRice]
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Registered: 31/07/03
Loc: Berlin, somewhere
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Written by: KaelGotRice
"Is there ONE RIGHT way to DANCE with poi?"
The answer is no.
If you take any dance style, or martial arts, or any type of movement and integrate it with your spinning, I'm sure you'll find the one way to dance with poi that is uniquely your own and makes you
I often miss points, lines and whole planes. I have a lot of creative ways of being stupid.
Still: I totally agree. There is not a single way to dance with poi; I have my style, and I more or less feel I can integrate it with something else, structurated in a different way.
I know that, for me, capoeira does not work, and contact improvisation neither (I love both, I do both; and actually, I think that CI mixes well with contact ball and contact staff, so not all is lost).
I was wondering what other people felt that mixed well, having to start something new. I was more or less convinced to try ballett, just to feel stupid; now I think I'll go for bellydance. And tango, but only because the überdrama makes me laugh.
Like, there is not a single way to write, but it's always good to listen to other writers advices. Then maybe think "bulllshit, I'll do it my own way".
"Style is what you cannot avoid doing"
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#672152 - 08/02/06 09:28 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Aliosha]
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Stream Entrant
Registered: 13/06/01
Loc: Melbourne
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I’m just back from UberOZ where we learnt much about combining dance with poi. So, as a suggestion, I recommend checking out one of the Uber Workshops. They rock. Cheers
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#672153 - 08/02/06 10:14 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Stone]
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Registered: 31/07/03
Loc: Berlin, somewhere
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Sounds super cool.
Too bad I was on the other side of the planet. :-(
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#672154 - 10/02/06 02:52 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Aliosha]
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Stream Entrant
Registered: 13/06/01
Loc: Melbourne
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Aliosha, the workshops were cool. And they do help you to find the “inner dancer”. Well worth the 4000 km trip for me to attend.
So do you do hardstep?
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#672156 - 11/02/06 09:18 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Aliosha]
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lurker
Registered: 22/03/02
Loc: Nashville, TN
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Written by: Aliosha
Dunno: what's hardstep?
if you're talking jungle, my map has it somewhere in between techstep and darkstep.
-- dut
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#672157 - 11/02/06 11:57 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Dut]
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HOP's glowstick ambassador!!
Registered: 16/08/05
Loc: Bay Area, California
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In my experience I've found that dancing comes naturally when you concentrate less on new moves and more on perfecting and adding passion to what you already know.
Spinning to music you love helps massively as well during practice sessions
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#672158 - 11/02/06 12:37 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Dut]
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Registered: 31/07/03
Loc: Berlin, somewhere
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#672159 - 19/02/06 01:22 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Aliosha]
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Registered: 17/02/06
Loc: Münchendorf, AUSTRIA
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I'd say music is actually a thing you can't really dance without. I think those of you, that make shows also use music in them. The dancing thing is more than just complicated. After two and a half years of poi spinning I still feel kind of stiff and unmoved  . I think I need to see myself on a video to change that . How is your experience? twirling greets chris
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#672160 - 19/02/06 02:47 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: chris19]
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HOP's glowstick ambassador!!
Registered: 16/08/05
Loc: Bay Area, California
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I think music is crucial, I've never found myself getting into that trance, or that complete intense poi vibe without it.
Not to mention choreography, or even limited choreography depending on high and low points in the music can be one of the biggest factors on how well a performance is taken.
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#672161 - 19/02/06 08:32 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Ange_GSC]
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master of disaster
Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: New York
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I find it depends on the mood.
Most times when I get in the 'zone' its because the music's doing its thing
However, the best time and best 'zone' I was in I'd hafta say was when there was no music and I was spinning on a floating dock and the sky was full of stars and the mist was on the water...... 
I found that at that moment the dance, and movement there came more from the poi, the rush of the flames, and the spiritual energy
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#672163 - 21/02/06 02:06 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: Ange_GSC]
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Registered: 31/07/03
Loc: Berlin, somewhere
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Written by:
However, the best time and best 'zone' I was in I'd hafta say was when there was no music and I was spinning on a floating dock and the sky was full of stars and the mist was on the water......
I agree, same for me.
But.
After having studied some meditation (and read quite a bit about it), I more or less make a distinction between "the Zone" (or meditative state) and Trance.
Tentative definition, for me:
The Zone is when you are TOTALLY present in the present, when you are not planning or remembering or worrying, you are just going with the flow and everything just happens in place; trance is when all that happens, and "YOU" (the you that thinks "I am") is not ever there.
So: I can get into the Zone with enough time, in a nice-nondisturbing place, WITHOUT audience (because, if there is, I am either too conscious of it, or working too much about NOT being conscious about it). At least, no audience I am aware of. And that's just me, my movements, my tools; and perfect, natural consciousness of all of it.
And then there is trance. It did not happen often, but it happened always in the same kind of situation: live music playing for me (and me firedancing for the players) and an audience. It usually goes like this: I start, after a while something goes
*SNAP*
and I am totally into it. I don't remember almost anything, when I recover consciousness 30 or so minutes afterwards, when I become aware of the people clapping hands, the music ending, that I am panting and sweated–
and that it was REALLY good.
But: no memories, no consciousness, no awareness.
For what I know, music (and a music that follows you, when you follow it) is necessary for my trances; I am not sure about the public, but, hej, who would try SO HARD (me, and the players) without people looking.
Any idea?
(gosh, this COULD be a thread on it's own: trance and meditation in spinning?)
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#930474 - 25/03/11 08:35 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: mcp]
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stranger
Registered: 25/03/11
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hie all , i am new and only just started learning poi was looking for any lessons in the dublin meath area , can do a few moves but have gone a bit stagnant need help
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#930478 - 25/03/11 08:56 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: majortwist]
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
Registered: 02/12/07
Loc: South Africa
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Try the "Meet Others" section. Or just hit Youtube. There are plenty of useful things there.
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#930497 - 26/03/11 12:38 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: aston]
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stranger
Registered: 25/03/11
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thank you  , ohh tried you tube and getting the tricks an't the prob or maybeit is but i can not see where i an going wrong i am a total novice
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#932034 - 17/05/11 11:06 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: majortwist]
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stranger
Registered: 20/05/10
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dance courses for spinners are not in ready supply in usa. i have taught classes for incorporating poi into ballet salsa tango and more modern dance style routines for some time now, but always in central america and europe. also i have found that this has some to do with the fact that the majority of american spinners are more tech oriented so the dance is designed around the tech rather than the opposite. i think that dance classes would help many people but also i think more info for expressive movement with poi is needed i hope to make some tutorials when i can find a good camera
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#935190 - 30/11/11 06:18 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: mcp]
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stranger
Registered: 26/11/11
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#935194 - 30/11/11 09:44 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: oppomix13]
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The Poi Spinning Undead
Registered: 19/04/11
Loc: Austin, Texas, United States
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Discowraps, did you ever make those tutorials?
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#935221 - 02/12/11 12:40 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: adeathlyaura]
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Flying Water Muppet
Registered: 20/05/03
Loc: Edin-borrow.
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#935515 - 31/12/11 10:33 PM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: mcp]
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The Poi Spinning Undead
Registered: 19/04/11
Loc: Austin, Texas, United States
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Discowraps mentioned possibly making tutorials on expressive movement with poi. I'd like to see something like that.
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#935666 - 12/01/12 09:29 AM
Re: dance lessons for spinners
[Re: adeathlyaura]
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stranger
Registered: 27/02/11
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I'd like to see videos on that also.
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