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#935214 - 01/12/11 04:28 PM Do swivels hurt isolations?
ColtonB Offline
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Registered: 30/11/11
Loc: DFW, TX
I have some Flowtoys and currently just have crystal cases on them (no Flowmasses).
My setup also has swivels near the handles, I was just wondering if the location of swivels with the weight of my flowtoys has anything to do with me not being able to isolate as well.
Where as when I am practicing with my homemade sock poi I can isolate very well.
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#935216 - 01/12/11 05:34 PM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: ColtonB]
thirteen Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
Loc: Minneapolis, MN USA
any hardware will make isolations more difficult, yeah. I find that a lot of stuff is easier with sock poi though - I can spiral wrap like a champ with them, but not with flowtoys or chain poi.

if it helps, you can wrap up once so there is nothing but cord between your hand and the poi head. that makes some things much easier.
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#935217 - 01/12/11 06:19 PM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: thirteen]
ColtonB Offline
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Yeah wrapping up definitely helps, I also think that if I get handles that connect directly to swivels without a dlink inbetween it would make it a little easier and.

Btw I am the same way with spiral wraps, socks they flow around my hands so soft and smooth but with my flowtoys they wrap up and then flop around my hands or get tangled up


Edited by ColtonB (01/12/11 06:21 PM)
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#935256 - 05/12/11 03:40 AM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: ColtonB]
merku Offline
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Registered: 02/12/11
Take Flowmass^^ in my opinion flowlights as crystal poi are way to light to play. But well i prefer heavy poi even for praticing.

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#935278 - 07/12/11 02:54 PM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: merku]
ColtonB Offline
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Registered: 30/11/11
Loc: DFW, TX
yeah im for sure getting flowmass.
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#935279 - 07/12/11 03:19 PM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: ColtonB]
thirteen Offline
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Registered: 01/03/11
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oh god spiral wraps. I can do them FLAWLESSLY, every time, with my sock poi. but put a pair of flowpoi in my hands and it's an entirely different story. I'm slowly getting better but it still boggles my mind how huge of a difference there is - it's not a small thing; it's night and day.
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#935287 - 08/12/11 04:05 AM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: thirteen]
ColtonB Offline
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Exactly.
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#936712 - 08/04/12 04:43 AM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: ColtonB]
beaniebob Offline
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Registered: 22/11/10
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
That seems weird to me, thirteen. I started out on glowsticks with shoelaces, and I can easily do spiral wraps and infinite spiral wraps (or nevisouls, don't know if there's an agreed upon name) with my flowlights, but my sock poi keep stretching and desynchronising just before I twist my hands to bounce the poi out again.

Back onto isolations, started learning them recently, and I feel that it's actually the way the sock poi stretch that make them more forgiving when I'm trying to isolate, in addition to them being quite a bit heavier than my crystal poi.

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#936973 - 12/05/12 07:59 PM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: ColtonB]
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#937036 - 22/05/12 07:02 AM Re: Do swivels hurt isolations? [Re: yolanda8802]
Sporky Offline
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Hi,

Personally, I find that the biggest thing that hurts isolations is weight, or rather lack of it. I've always found that the slower the spin speed, the easier it is to isolate with poi and as I use very heavy heads (even for fire) then my spin speed is just right for controling both head and hand position for isolations. Certainly wrapping the swivel out of the equation helps but it is more of a temporary fix and having big arm movements while performing them really gets the audience going

Hope this helps

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